Episode 7

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29th Feb 2024

Shared Future vs. Shared Vision with Byron Bland

How do you repair polarized relationships? Many political depolarization strategies emphasize the value of common interests and elevating similarities to drown out our differences - contact theory, for short. Such strategies certainly have their place, but there is something to be said about learning skills that allow you to co-exist with someone whose worldview stands in firm contrast with your own, absent of any consideration of any shared traits.

Byron Bland is a peacemaker who's worked in some of the world's most highly polarized conflict zones - Northern Ireland, Israel-Palestine, and South Africa. Over the years, he's made critical observations about what it takes to co-exist with your enemy. Peace is complex. It does not guarantee harmony, nor does it grant either side exactly the outcomes that they desire. At its core, however, it ensures we can all live and share space.

Byron talks with us about what peace and justice in conflict looks like. He elaborates on the difference between "a vision for a shared future" and "a shared vision of the future". His insights offer an honest, realistic take on what depolarization can and must look like to have meaningful, sustained impact. 

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CounterPol
Counter Polarization
2024 is a massively consequential year for national and global politics. Sixty-four countries across the world will have elections over the next 12 months - including the U.S., U.K., European Parliament, Taiwan, India, South Africa, and Mexico. This is a watershed moment for democracy as a governing system not simply because so much of the world's population will mobilize to decide who comes to power - but because, at this moment, countries are more polarized than they have ever been.

How did we get here? Why are democratic electorates so deeply divided? Is it culture war? Are we chess pieces in a game played by political opportunists? Is this an organic outcome of pluralistic societies? What's going on?

The CounterPol (short for "Counter Polarization") podcast is trying to figure all this out.

In this first season, we talk with scholars, business leaders, and peace activists to understand the mechanics of societal polarization. Over eight episodes, guests share their research with the listener - the culmination of which, we hope, brings to light the overt and covert processes that are driving us further apart.

Join Ceejay Hayes, Alan Jagolinzer, and Sander van der Linden as they dive into the complex world of polarization.

Send your questions, comments, and theories to counterpolpodcast@gmail.com

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